+ Reply to Thread
Page 9 of 11 FirstFirst ... 7891011 LastLast
Results 81 to 90 of 106
  1. #81

    Default Re: Experience With Energy Kinetics System 2000

    That's an interesting concept about the warranty. The core credit is part of the warranty program and is not meant to represent extra profit to the dealer. As I mentioned in a previous post, this is written in the warranty to the homeowner. The dealer is responsible for fulfilling the terms of that warranty.

    As far as the problem with the hot water, the service board has no electronics in it so its functions are not dependent on return water temperature. If you do decide to leave the service board in place and forget about the manager, your next oil bill will be a real doozy.

    As far as what the dealer wants to charge you for a replacement manager, you'll have to draw your own conclusion about integrity.

    If you still have the manager here's something you could try. Move the thermostat lead from terminal THW (top left) to an unused input if there is one, say T3 or T4. On the right hand side move the orange lead from ZHW (second down from the top) to Z3 or Z4. Run the system for hot water. If the problem follows, it's not a manager problem. If the problem went away, it is the manager. If you don't have any unused zones just pick one and remove the existing wires marking them when you do so to avoid confucion.

    If you try it post a reply here.

  2. #82
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Posts
    3

    Default Re: Experience With Energy Kinetics System 2000

    Quote Originally Posted by amazer98 View Post
    As a newbie to this TOH forum, I have to say there's a lot of valuable info here. I'm especially enjoying reading through the threads of this System 2000 discussion, since I am planning to upgrade our 25 year old Burnham oil boiler in a month or so and... after much research... have decided... with a little trepidation... to install a System 2000.

    Our local oil company installs boilers, including Burnham, Buderus and System, 2000, and the general manager has highly recommended the latter. He says they've installed quite a few, that they're reliable, save the most oil, and that customers love them. I had been considering a Buderus G115WS, but heard that the Logamatic controls were complicated to figure out and use.

    When I talked with the manager yesterday, he said that Buderus would probably cut oil consumption by 10 percent or so, but the 2000 would cut it by at least 30 percent.

    I have a couple of questions that I wanted to ask. Should we install a stainless chimney liner? Our 1986 2100sf cape has a 35 foot outside chimney (measuring from basement)-- well the chimney actually abuts the garage interior, so it's not completely outside. I understand that the chimney has a tiled flue in good shape. The oil co. manager says we don't need a liner, but I called Energy Kinetics and they said we should install a liner.

    Secondly, should I install a Tiger Loop? Our oil guy says it's not necessary, and our current system has worked fine without one. But I've read several comments by System 2000 users (some in this thread here) saying that the TL solved many frustrating burner problems. Should I just wait to see if any issues arise?

    The oil fellow did say that a spin-on filter would be a good idea, so I'll have him include that.

    Thanks for all your input.
    You most likely don't need the liner but if you ever switch over to gas you will. Also on the tiger loop it turns out most of my filter issues were because my oil tank was in the garage and it was a long way to and from my burner so when ever the filter got even slightly dirty it would cause the pump to work really hard. I had a company called OSI from Oceanside NY who are authorized dealer for the system 2000 give me a service contract and they had told me that a tiger loop would solve my fuel issues and sure enough it has, they also cleaned the line and recommended switching to a 1/2 inch copper line over the 3/8 one I have now, but it seems fine with the 3/8 for now. I'm on the same filter from Oct and the pressure gauge is still way low. Just a note with this warm winter my fuel consumption has been really low and considering the price of oil this year I'm very thankful. Unless we get a really cold March I'm going to use between 500-600 gallons this year. I love my System 2000, even more since I found a good service company.

  3. #83
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    1

    Thumbs down Re: Experience With Energy Kinetics System 2000

    When the system works it works well. But Ive had 4 system manager failures in 10 years. At $400+ for the parts alone it gets old quick! Previous owner had this system installed about a year or 2 before we bought the house. Reliability is subpar in my opinion based on my experience with it. If there were a cheaper alternative to it I'd retrofit it with something else & scrap this system! Shop around for something else.
    Last edited by ACP3165; 04-16-2012 at 10:29 AM.

  4. #84

    Default Re: Experience With Energy Kinetics System 2000

    If your manager was replaced 4 times in 10 years it's quite possible there's a different problem that's being misdiagnosed. Also, by doing the math, at least one, and possibly more, of those managers should have been under warranty.

    If the system is less than 15 years old your manager has a 3 yr warranty for rebuilt, 5 years if new. If the system was installed pre-1997 the manager has a 1 yr warranty for rebuilt, 3 yr for new.

  5. #85
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    1

    Question Re: Experience With Energy Kinetics System 2000

    Does anyone know the expected life of a System 2000 installed in 1995 (17 years ago). My water tank is starting to leak and needs replacement and I am concerned the EK may not be far behind. It has been a good unit with minimum problems to date. I burned fuel oil for 1st 15 years and then switched to a Carlin Combustion natural gas burner 2 years ago which has been fine. Biggest problem is finding someone to work on it!

  6. #86

    Default Re: Experience With Energy Kinetics System 2000

    With routine maintenance the system should last at least 30-35 years. Although you have a gas burner and will not have the accumulation of scale or ash that you might have from an oil burner, it's still important to have the system checked to be sure the safeties and venting are functional and in good condition.

    For assistance in finding a service company call the manufacturer. They will either give you names of local service companies or put you in touch with the local rep who can.

  7. #87
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    1

    Default Re: Experience With Energy Kinetics System 2000

    I just replaced the fuel filter on my unit today and now the furnace will not fire up. Do the fuel lines need to bled when installing a new filter?

  8. #88

    Default Re: Experience With Energy Kinetics System 2000

    When you replace the oil filter on any oil burner you will need to bleed the air out. EK uses standard burners so the same startup procedure applies as with any other system.

  9. #89
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    southern NH
    Posts
    3

    Default Re: Experience With Energy Kinetics System 2000

    So we installed a System 2000 last January to replace the aging Weil-McLean boiler in our 27 year old house. I was sold on the energy saving theory behind System 2000, along with a number of positive reviews I read on various heating forums.

    Obviously, the winter of 2011-12 was a mild one here in southern NH, so it can be a bit tricky to figure out our oil savings on an apples vs apple basis, at least until another couple of years go by.. However, we had an oil delivery at the end of March 2012, so I can compare our fuel usage from then to our most recent filling on Nov.10.

    I keep records of all our fillings, and compared this recent period since we started using the System 2000 to several earlier years, estimating consumption for the several days difference between deliveries in one year vs another. On average, we are saving 30-32% over the April thru mid-November timeframe– (about 300 gallons on prior system vs 205 gallons on System 2000). A good chunk of this is obviously used for hot water.

    One big advantage of the System 2000 is that it’s unbelievably quiet. It sounds like a microwave when it runs, as opposed to a hairdryer. Since the boiler is right under our living room, that makes a difference!

    All in all, I am very impressed with the System 2000. If you gotta burn oil -- and here in New England it the cheapest fuel after natural gas and wood pellets-- this is the best way to go.

  10. #90
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    8

    Default Re: Experience With Energy Kinetics System 2000

    So I had some issues earlier this year with my system manager. I finally got the right guys into fix it and it has been good ever since. I am really considering a conversion from oil to gas- I already have gas in the house for my oven and clothes dryer.I am wondering what this entails, if it is worth it and if the efficiency of the boiler will improve. It looks as thought it would use the Carlin EZ burner. When we moved into our house in 2000, oil was $1 a gallon, now it is $4.Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •