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    Default New to TOH I need pro help! Please.

    Happly holidays to those who celebrate them. Happy work day to those who don't.

    I usually do but today is my first christmas workday ever....short of building some new toys I'm so new here I have to finish reading the rules. I have a potential interior nightmare and need professional advice. I have pics, going to check the rules on that asap before I post them. I have 17 years painting experiance. I started in state funded projects for low income communities and have worked in 1 mansion, many high end homes. Alot of new construction and new businesses. All as an employee with a fair share of side work. Things were well for many years. Recently things aren't as well...So there's a little hitory on me. Oh yeah, I Love TOH just never got involved more then reading some issues and catching a few shows when I can.

    So the problem at hand is an upper hallway cieling. The paint sagged and ran very bad. I believe it was a moisture/humidity issue. The house is prone to moisture for starters. I primed the whole interior (cielings/walls) 6 hours with a premium primer. The home owner has had some unsavory characters working here unfortunitly. The most recent pair told him it was because the surface temp was to cold. I have seen their work, one of which robbed the home owner of excessive materials. The other guy is still on site for other paint related work. But their work as a team so far has been less then decent.

    The details:
    Interior prime
    Exterior temp around time of application 30ish degrees with light wind.
    small cape
    primed 5 rooms on lower level walls/cielings
    primed 3 hallways walls/cielings
    premium latex primer (havent checked the rules for advertising stuff)
    second level is unfinshed and as of this post im unsure if it's insulated (owner keeps it locked and was away when I went to inspect the issue). It does however have brand new windows. No heat. It does get cold up there. Now, before I did this area, the doorway was open for several hours and the heat on the lower floor was set @ 72. I vented via 1 window and periodicly opening a door. I didn't feel a fane in the window was a good idea as it was cold outside. Now by the time I got to this area, I closed the door and hit the cieling. Sprayed for another 2-3 hours the humidity felt like any other spray job. Before I left I did a quick inspection of course. Everything looked fine. As good as drying primer will look...I come in the next day and not only did this cieling sag it ran alot. The cieling is not in contact with the roof. It's on a slant as this is an upper stair well. Only the cieling ran, the upper walls (verticals) didnt run at all, they look fine. Nothing anywhere ran or came out unexpected. So I'm trying to figure out if this is a surface temperature issue or a humudity moisture issue. The upper level has been closed since (4 days now) and of course feels cold. Once I did leave, I did lower the thermostat to 60 to save energy ( I always do that) but would think that would help the humidity after I lefted and locked up. If anyone wants to take a stab I'll figure out how to post the pics. Or go back to trying to enjoy christmas. Grrrr

    ***edit***
    found a way to show my pics
    also note i did not paint the exterior, that painter did a blow and go and never finished (hence no shutters).
    Other laborers worked in here prior to my arrival, you may notice other little things like painted hinges, etc. I know and it's not me.





    Last edited by generaldark; 12-25-2009 at 06:25 PM. Reason: updated pictures

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    Default Re: New to TOH I need pro help! Please.

    couple more pics..sorry they so big but atleast they load fast for most of us....




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    Default Re: New to TOH I need pro help! Please.

    Why did you put so much freak'n paint on the walls? What did you expect?

    This is not rocket science, it is paint for crying out loud!

    Why did it drip? You have got to be kidd'n the freak'n 'ell out of me!

    You sprayed it????!!!!!!!!!!! Well DUH!!!!!!!!!!

    Hey, go back to third grade............ I before E except after C....... Ceiling, ceiling, ceiling.
    Last edited by NEC; 12-25-2009 at 06:48 PM.

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    Default Re: New to TOH I need pro help! Please.

    Quote Originally Posted by NEC View Post
    Why did you put so much freak'n paint on the walls? What did you expect?

    This is not rocket science, it is paint for crying out loud!

    Why did it drip? You have got to be kidd'n the freak'n 'ell out of me!

    You sprayed it????!!!!!!!!!!! Well DUH!!!!!!!!!!

    Hey, go back to third grade............ I before E except after C....... Ceiling, ceiling, ceiling.
    Thank you kind sir for not only not reading my post. But for wasting my time as well as yours. I included a pic of another slanted cieling done the same day by me. They both received the same application. Thanks for your help but I think I'll keep looking. I need profesional painting help not grammer lessons, I have those on thursdays after learning to read typo.

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    Default Re: New to TOH I need pro help! Please.

    Quote Originally Posted by generaldark View Post
    Thank you kind sir for not only not reading my post. But for wasting my time as well as yours. I included a pic of another slanted cieling done the same day by me. They both received the same application. Thanks for your help but I think I'll keep looking. I need profesional painting help not grammer lessons, I have those on thursdays after learning to read typo.
    Grammer? GrAMMER? Not Grammer?....... You need to learn how to spell my friend............ Here is a hint...... When paint is slopped on that thick it will drip...... Yes, you need "profesional" help.

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    Default Re: New to TOH I need pro help! Please.

    I do hope to find some real advice here from someone who knows a few things about painting. Unlike my new friend NEC who seems to be more interested in flamming and proper english. No, I never attempted to present myself as an english major buddy. As for your advice, you don't know primer from paint from a toothbrush I'm guessing. Every wall and ceiling got the same prep and 1 coat of primer applied. The rest of the place looks fine. The ceiling in question was done about midway through the prime. So I was moving at full momentum and have total control over the amount of primer being applied. But enough explaning my thoughts to a forum junkie with nothing better to do. I'm stressed and looking for help. Not another forum trolled by flammers and "internet painter professionals". My apologies to everyone else from the huge pics to the extra reading.

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