Okay, so I followed Rich's instructions on replacing this nasty little, but necessary gizmo. Yes, I found the tub and everything is fine, except after trying at least 2 dozen times to get the water to stay in the tub, it is still draining out. I am even resorting to having my 66 year old mother try it (not good). I have repaired and/or replaced most things in our house, but I seem to always have trouble with the items that should be exceedingly simple. Any suggestions, other than hiring someone??? Could it be the pipe, or is it, as usual, just ME??? HELP!!! thanks, Jan