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    Question GFCI Outlet

    Can a GFCI circuit breaker (in the breaker panel) be wired to a GFCI outlet. I have this setup, could this be the reason the circuit breaker keeps tripping. I always thought you could have one or the other, but not both on the same line.

    The home builder installed it this way. The line only feeds 3 outlet in the kitchen...2 regular outlets and 1 GFCI.
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    Default Re: GFCI Outlet

    you should be able to do this. but try and pull out the gfi outlet and replace with a normal one see if that does the trick.

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    Default Re: GFCI Outlet

    Can a GFCI circuit breaker (in the breaker panel) be wired to a GFCI outlet. I have this setup, could this be the reason the circuit breaker keeps tripping. I always thought you could have one or the other, but not both on the same line.
    The question is why would there be both ?

    I've run into this before where a homeowner installed a GFCI receptacle in place of a regular one outside. They couldn't understand why the newly installed receptacle was regularly dead. They would go and reset the breaker but would happen again and again. Turns out they didn't realize the breaker was a GFCI .
    It seems 2 GFCI's can cause erroneous tripping if one is feed off another.
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    Default Re: GFCI Outlet

    It has been my experience that you can not use one solid state device to control another solid state device.
    Jack
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    Default Re: GFCI Outlet

    Jack .... not to nitpick but that's not quite true as a general statement though I agree with you with the sense circuits of GFCI's .
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    Default Re: GFCI Outlet

    Canuk, You have way to much problems with what is called low current seep. Try to use a solid state relay to control another solid state relay, often times the first will not be able to turn completely off.
    Jack
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    Default Re: GFCI Outlet

    Quote Originally Posted by JLMCDANIEL View Post
    Canuk, You have way to much problems with what is called low current seep. Try to use a solid state relay to control another solid state relay, often times the first will not be able to turn completely off.
    Jack
    I think you are wrong Jack.

    E=MC squared is involved.

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    Default Re: GFCI Outlet

    I have used ss relays with little isses in the past ....... ganged in a latching configuration used in a pulsed single switch operation ........ mutliple ganged ss timer relays to name a couple.

    But also remember there are plenty of digital circuits using ss devices controlling other ss devices.

    Remember the old triple 5 timers used for controlling bipolars , fets , mosfets , cmos , scr , diacs , triacs

    or .... solid state motor controllers

    or ....... pulse width modulation

    or .... modern day timers are mainly solid state

    just saying
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    Default Re: GFCI Outlet

    Quote Originally Posted by canuk View Post
    I have used ss relays with little isses in the past ....... ganged in a latching configuration used in a pulsed single switch operation ........ mutliple ganged ss timer relays to name a couple.

    But also remember there are plenty of digital circuits using ss devices controlling other ss devices.

    Remember the old triple 5 timers used for controlling bipolars , fets , mosfets , cmos , scr , diacs , triacs

    or .... solid state motor controllers controls motor not another solid state device

    or ....... pulse width modulation

    or .... modern day timers are mainly solid state controls another device not another solid state device or has mechaniscal switch contacts

    just saying
    I should have specified AC control. An AC solid state relay (no mechanical contacts) will fail to completely turn off another AC input relay connected directly to its output.
    Jack
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    Default Re: GFCI Outlet

    i put a gfi plug in the basement then a swich then a plug it workes great never had any issues

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