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  1. #1
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    Default Storm window suggestions?

    I am restoring an 1865 second empire and heard, depending on which source I trust, storm windows are a great idea that will save me lots of money.

    I've looked into a few, and I like that Harvey Tru-channel come in black, have super low air infiltration and are supposedly approved for airport sound abatement. I don't like the cost so much, and not sure I like having a screen for just one sash.

    Larson storm windows are much cheaper (I think) and seem to have the option of having a full-length screen, meaning I could open the top and bottom sash half way and get a nice convection on summer nights which supposedly is what old windows were designed to do. But they don't come in black (a dark brown though) and they don't list any stats (only that each series is "better" than the last) and say nothing of noise abatement.

    Does anyone have experience with these brands? Anyone have experience between half a screen and a full screen?

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    Default Re: Storm window suggestions?

    "Approved for Airport Sound Abatement"

    By whom exactly?

    The manufacturer?

    Just beware of marketing gimmicks unless there is independent testing to back that up. I will make no comment about any of the windows as I lack the knowledge, I can just spot sales tactics a mile away.
    It's this old house, not this built after your dad was born house.

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    Default Re: Storm window suggestions?

    Yup, according to the manufacturer, without citation, and I can't find any info ****** about such programs or what is or isn't approved.

    The one thing I have learned about storm windows is there are no standards, there are no independent tests, there are no regulations, window manufacturers control the existing agencies (AAMA, NFRC), different agencies make wildly different recommendations, and the one time there was a tax credit available for them the rule was written so no storm window over a single pane window could every qualify. Local credits don't cover them, either.

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    Default Re: Storm window suggestions?

    Did it just censor the word "******?"

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    Default Re: Storm window suggestions?

    Probably. The automatic word censors here are pretty extensive- you can't write "scr-ape" without a hyphen because of the word contained therein!

    In the US, if the NFRC doesn't rate it and approve the rating then there is no rating and it's just hype. Any storm window will abate noise somewhat but I'd look for quality of build as my preferred parameter of choice. Many are of jammed-together riveted or crimped construction which will loosen up in time. If the seller won't let me yank and pull on a sample to see how well it's made then I don't want that seller involved in my purchase.

    I'm still looking for a storm window seller if that says anything about them- this is why I don't do storms except for replacement of damaged units with an identical unit and why I won't stand behind anything except the install quality. Storms are not historical and newer fenestration is far superior. Your money is better spent either restoring or replacing- just my opinion and YMMV!

    Phil

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    Default Re: Storm window suggestions?

    I have installed the silver series window(two track, double hung) of Larson last year. A pretty good piece in a classy style. It was the full screen I opted. You can surely go for it. the main thing that attracted me is the insulation property and the cheap value. These kind of fixtures can surely help us to enhance the resale value of our home. With these benefits in mind, I just got my brand new vinyl storm doors from Toronto. As they come in a lot of styles and colors, it was pretty cool to pick my favorite.
    Its the post from this residential window installers http://www.clerawindows.com/blog/the...m-storm-doors/ that helped me to differentiate between vinyl and aluminium storm doors. Hope it will help you too.

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