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    Default Fixing Wall Corner Water Damage



    Hopefully the piccie shows what's going on. Apparently there was some sort of 'flood' in my house during the previous owner's tenure. I didn't realise it until I yanked the carpeting last year. And finally, a while back, the corners around this closet just dissolved.

    I have a triple challenge: I am a total sheet rock 'noob'... and I'm partially disabled (I get tired)... and I'm on a fixed income. So I'm looking for a (hopefully) relatively easy/cheap DIY fix if possible. If it's something that requires a pro, just let me know.

    I -guess- one cuts out the old sheet rock on both sides of the corner and then replaces. Correct? But how much does one cut out? Do you have to cut out large enough pieces on both sides to be able to nail onto studs on each side or can one just patch and tape somehow?

    If this is too much for a question like this but maybe there are pre-made videos or books that demonstrate this is child-simple directions?

    (And after this, I guess I'll have to tackle the floor stains!)

    TIA,

    --JC
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    From the picture, you cut the drywall from side to side and as high as you need. Clean the studs, remove all nails/screws and corner beads. Remove the baseboard and put aside, if you are going to re-use it. Clean the framing and let dry.

    Cut a new piece of drywall to size and screw it on. All screws must go into studs. Install a new corner bead (metal or plastic). Tape , mud, sand, prime and paint.

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    What DJ said.

    I would add to stick with metal corner trim, because it will match up better with the existing metal trim.

    Check out wall patch/repair videos on youtube to get an idea of the technique and tools to use. Don't be afraid to ask questions.
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    Thanks.

    Question:
    1. When you say 'side to side' do you mean cut the entire front piece of dry wall off?

    2. Do you just use a hacksaw to cut the drywall or does one need a special saw?

    Also, I don't see any 'corner bead' from the area that is exposed. I guess I'll get a better idea once I start cutting.

    I have watched a few DIY videos on Youtube and they mostly seem to involve 'corner bead' and 'mud'. But what I think I need is replacing a -section- of drywall---which seems to be a bit more 'advanced'. If there are any suggested videos or other instructions you can recommend, I'd really appreciate it.

    Cheers,

    ---JC

    Quote Originally Posted by dj1 View Post
    From the picture, you cut the drywall from side to side and as high as you need. Clean the studs, remove all nails/screws and corner beads. Remove the baseboard and put aside, if you are going to re-use it. Clean the framing and let dry.

    Cut a new piece of drywall to size and screw it on. All screws must go into studs. Install a new corner bead (metal or plastic). Tape , mud, sand, prime and paint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suntower View Post
    Thanks.

    Question:
    1. When you say 'side to side' do you mean cut the entire front piece of dry wall off?

    2. Do you just use a hacksaw to cut the drywall or does one need a special saw?

    Also, I don't see any 'corner bead' from the area that is exposed. I guess I'll get a better idea once I start cutting.

    I have watched a few DIY videos on Youtube and they mostly seem to involve 'corner bead' and 'mud'. But what I think I need is replacing a -section- of drywall---which seems to be a bit more 'advanced'. If there are any suggested videos or other instructions you can recommend, I'd really appreciate it.

    Cheers,

    ---JC
    You need to remove what is damaged. Your pic shows the end of a wall, which is probably what DJ is referring to cutting from side to side. The rusty strips you see on either side, that is the existing metal corner bead.

    I would be inclined to cut the existing corner bead 6"-12" higher than where you see the rust bleeding through the drywall. Use a hacksaw for this. Corner bead is "L" shaped and wraps around the corner, extending out flat by about 1-1/4". The rust will continue to worsen and bleed through your drywall and paint, which is why I would remove as much of it as possible.

    The drywall itself can be cut with a drywall saw, coarse toothed keyhole saw, or by scoring through with a utility knife. A saw would be the easiest. You only need to remove what is damaged.


    The end cap of the wall is easy, simply cut the damage out and install new drywall with screws. It is fully supported, so no worries on how to attach it. Going down the lengths of the wall, you can do one of two things, cut the drywall back to the centerline of the next stud in the wall, or, only cut out the damage, then install a block as a backer to support the joint, either method is acceptable. For ease, you want to keep your cuts as straight as possible. Drywall screws will be the best choice for installing your new drywall, including installing the new corner bead.

    Use the fiber mesh joint tape, it is self adhesive and is much easier to use than paper tape. Use multipurpose joint compound to fill and float out the repair as smoothly as possible. Once you're happy with your work, you can apply texture to match, which looks like a blown on texture. The Homax texture kits work extremely well for small areas. You do not need to buy the Homax refills, you can mix your own from the left over joint compound, simply add a little water to the compound until it is just soupy enough to flow through the texture gun. I do not recommend the aerosol textures because you can't really control the size of the texture for perfect matching and blending.
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    Thanks. Sorry for the slow reply. The 'notification' thingee didn't seem to work.

    Will give all this a try... wish me luck.

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    So I actually -did- it. Easier than I thought. Well... structurally.

    But one last thing: I can't seem to get the corners to look nice. IOW: I put down the bead. And it's a little shallow... ie. you have to build up a couple of layers of joint compound. But the results are that the corners are wrinkly. ie. I can't seem to get a nice right angle.

    What's the trick? Do I need a better 'butter knife'? Or is there a technique?

    TIA,

    ---JC

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    Are you referring to outside corners or inside corners?

    Outside corners are super simple, the trick is to use multiple thinner layers to fill low areas first, once that is fully dry, you scr-ape or sand off any ridges or high spots and apply one ultra thin finish coat, which will fill all the tiny voids. Follow this up with a light sanding after it dries and your corners should be baby's butt smooth.

    Inside corners are much more difficult because you're dealing with paper tape instead of mesh tape. The most common problems with inside corners is that when bedding the tape into the compound, too much compound is squeezed out, leaving nothing left behind to adhere the tape to the wall. The second issue is that as you bed the tape, it gets mashed into the corner, creating a trough, subsequent layers of compound also get carved out during the application process, so the trick here is this:
    1 - Apply a thin, even coat of joint compound to both sides of the corner (1/8" thick or less ). Fold the tape in half lengthwise to get a nice crease, then finger it into the joint. Start with a 6" vertical stroke at the top to set the tape in place, this will hold it while you do a downward stroke to bed the tape in the compound. You do this to both sides of the joint. Do not use excessive pressure on the knife or you'll squeeze all the compound out from under the tape and it will delaminate.

    2 - When applying the top coating of compound to both sides of the joint, you'll find that the first side will go fine, the second side will cut a groove in the compound in the corner. For the first coat, this is ok, just do the best you can. In subsequent coats of compound, do one side of the joint at a time and allow it to fully dry before coming back on the second side of the joint, this will prevent cutting the groove.
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    You know, drywall is a trade that gets no respect (or not enough respect). I look at these guys who work late into the night mudding and sanding forever, and I realize that not everyone can do it like them. Certainly not novice homeowners.

    If you are not happy with your results, rip it and try again. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Practice makes perfect.

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    No kidding. While I am proficient at it, I'm no "pro". Watching someone who does this for a living is like watching an artist paint, same goes for just about all other aspects of the construction trade. Someone who knows what they're doing makes everything look/sound easy, and most of the time it is easy, it's just a matter of having the knowledge, techniques, and tools to do it like a pro. But then I'm an odd duck, as this has always come easy to me.
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