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  1. #1
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    Default failed inspection....

    so i failed my plumbing rough in inspection 3 times so far. 1st time noted no tub installed (slab on grade and he wanted to see drain in case there wouldnt be an access panel to see in later)and missing nail plate. installed tub and nail plates. 2nd inspection he only noted 1 nail plate needed by tub for in case.... installed extra nail plate asked for and he failed again. this time he stated the tub drain configuration.... ok- i see his point but shouldnt that be caught prior? a failed inspection lists failed issues- a re inspection covers the prior offenses.....
    i had the tub overflow tie into the waste after the trap and he wants it before the trap....

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    Default Re: failed inspection....

    it's not the inspectors job to do it right, it's just to make sure it's done right. i bet there's not one contractor, plumber or electrician out there that hasn't failed an inspection at least two times. it's our job to do things to code, as it is yours should you decide to take on this task by yourself. don't blame the inspector....you didn't do your homework.

    i've had inspectors to the exact same thing to me and i used to ask myself...."why didn't he just tell me that the last time he was here".....i learned the hard way just like the way you're learning. it's your/our fault, not his.

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    Default Re: failed inspection....

    1 - If the work is wrong, it is wrong.
    2 - The inspectors have the right to call anything they want, whether there is an issue or not.
    3 - Inspectors only use the code book as a reference manual and are allowed to make calls as they see fit.

    If you think you're being wronged, take it up with the head of the department.
    I suffer from CDO ... Its like OCD, but in alphabetical order, LIKE IT SHOULD BE!!!

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    Default Re: failed inspection....

    also, some or most inspectors will fail you with the first problem they find and not keep looking to see what else is wrong. depending on where you live, they can be extremely busy and they often get frustrated so this is one of the things you have to deal with. don't argue or upset him, just agree, fix the problems and call him back. you don't want him mad at you, then he'll start looking for things to fail you at.

    in mass, you can't pull your own plumbing permit so you're lucky you can at least do that. i believe that homeowners here can only pull building permits, but, i'm not positive about that.

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    Default Re: failed inspection....

    Just how did you manage to connect the tub overflow after the trap?
    John

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    Default Re: failed inspection....

    Quote Originally Posted by johnjh2o View Post
    Just how did you manage to connect the tub overflow after the trap?
    i was wondering the same thing.

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    Default Re: failed inspection....

    You never argue with your inspector.

    Rule #1: your inspector is never wrong.
    Rule #2: If he is wrong, see rule #1.

    The correct way is to have the overflow before the trap. Common sense.

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    Default Re: failed inspection....

    If your overflow joins after the trap, there's nothing to prevent sewer gases exiting through the overflow. You'll have the stinkiest bathroom in the neighborhood.
    The "Senior Member" designation under my name doesn't mean I know a lot, it just means I talk a lot.I've been a DIYer since I was 12 (thanks, Dad!). I have read several books on various home improvement topics. I do not have any current code books I can refer to. I was an apprentice plumber for two years.

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    Default Re: failed inspection....

    Quote Originally Posted by MLB Construction View Post
    it's not the inspectors job to do it right, it's just to make sure it's done right. i bet there's not one contractor, plumber or electrician out there that hasn't failed an inspection at least two times. it's our job to do things to code, as it is yours should you decide to take on this task by yourself. don't blame the inspector....you didn't do your homework.

    i've had inspectors to the exact same thing to me and i used to ask myself...."why didn't he just tell me that the last time he was here".....i learned the hard way just like the way you're learning. it's your/our fault, not his.
    Agreed...good suggestion

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    Default Re: failed inspection....

    yes- i fully understand he is the boss, and doesnt like to be questioned......

    he failed me for tub not installed(wanted to see piping prior to closing walls in in case there wasnt an access panel-(slab on grade)and a nail plate that was questionable needed. he drew on the permit how he expected to see it piped-- drain, trap, "T" picking up the overflow going into a long sweep 90 to main line.

    i installed tub, plumbe his way and plate.

    he failed me for a plate i didnt need.
    i installed plate without question

    he failed me for overflow piping.

    i will correct it. my issue is with the inspector. i believe he is just peeved. we had a disagreement during the ground work that he got overruled on by the chief inspector and it has been ruff since. he failed ground work over the vent- i had it plumbed as a y (rolled up past the 1/2 point)off the main line as a dry stack vent. he failed it prefering wet vents. this would have been 7' more pipe then needed and going thru 2 window jack legs- un needed. i was respectfull when i asked him if i met code, he replied yes but i prefer wet vents over dry vents, i replied i wanted a second opinion because code is code and he wasnt inspecting to opinion and preferences.....

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