Re: Bad Plumbing??? Update on the saga...
Many thanks to all who replied. It was extremely helpful.
I am fine with the pex inside and along the house under the deck. That part gets no direct sunlight. There is, however, a place where the hot and cold come up the wall of the outdoor shower stall and are exposed. It is the south west side of the house; It gets grueling late afternoon direct sun, which comes in through the open top of the stall and strikes the pipes directly for about 2-3 hours. I have called the plumber for the second time asking that he either confirm that the pipe will be ok with that sun exposure and will not break down, or come and replace that section with appropriate pipes. I don't know if the plumber should have asked me about direct sun hitting the pipes or not. Probably he didn't think it would be an issue. But this will be a summer rental, and I need systems to be as reliable as possible.
The plumber came back once already and installed a shut off valve for the hot and restored my shut-off valve for the cold. Why would he remove an existing valve without asking me if I use it? He said we have to have the system blown out with pressurized air anyway, but we drain the outdoor shower lines long before we close the house. He also clamped the part under the deck that was very loopy. I felt we were more likely to get freezing if water sat in those loops.
This was actually the main plumber,s son and I got the impression that he was less than thrilled about plumbing. I think he did everything as easily (for him) as he could. He asked me to call him directly for any follow-up, not to call the main number. He also asked me if I had anything else when he left for the second time. How would I know if something else needs to be addressed? Do I look like a plumber? I imagine he will not be happy to come back again.
Lastly, there is an extra hole in the laundry room ceiling where it looks like he meant to run copper piping instead of running the pex on a curve. I wish he would have used copper since it would have been a cleaner look, but since it is an acceptable method I'll just let it go, as well as the extra hole in the ceiling.
If he had told me what he planned, everything could have been corrected. I couldn't tell him how I wanted it done, because I didn't know the facts, and depended on him. I did not pay for the first return visit and I don't think I should pay for the second, but I would appreciate your thoughts on that.
Kind of embarrasing to call again (I called the main number both times). It made me feel like the customer from hell. But I paid $790 for installation of two toilets that I provided (Toto and Kohler), installing one new faucet on a vanity (again provided by me), and running the hot water to the shower and adding the valve and shower head hardware in the stall (which he provided.) I thought that was a lot of dough. I also noticed that he used the old drain piece on the sink hardware (the thing on the bottom of the sink that goes up and down to hold or drain water. But that was the least of my worries.
Thank you. I am wondering if I am out of line calling him back on the drainage valve issue and the direct sun exposure to the pipe. I hate to pay more but will if it is the fair thing to do....